Comments on: What’s The Problem With Grains? http://zentofitness.com/whats-the-problem-with-grains/ Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:08:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Laughing Your Way To Fitness | Zen to Fitness http://zentofitness.com/whats-the-problem-with-grains/comment-page-1/#comment-2926 Laughing Your Way To Fitness | Zen to Fitness Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:53:25 +0000 http://zentofitness.com/?p=1476#comment-2926 [...] the admission of healthy whole grains (see why here) and all other modern day refined foods. A diet based on the foods above keeps blood sugar stable, [...] [...] the admission of healthy whole grains (see why here) and all other modern day refined foods. A diet based on the foods above keeps blood sugar stable, [...]

]]> By: Your Ultimate Guide To Zen Resources http://zentofitness.com/whats-the-problem-with-grains/comment-page-1/#comment-2728 Your Ultimate Guide To Zen Resources Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:37:02 +0000 http://zentofitness.com/?p=1476#comment-2728 [...] What’s The Problem With Grains? [...] [...] What’s The Problem With Grains? [...]

]]> By: Edwin http://zentofitness.com/whats-the-problem-with-grains/comment-page-1/#comment-2565 Edwin Tue, 05 Jan 2010 08:37:09 +0000 http://zentofitness.com/?p=1476#comment-2565 What about eating focaccia bread? This isn't made from grains, so I suppose eating this is okay? <strong>@ Edwin: Focaccia although delicious is definitely made with grains, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focaccia" rel="nofollow">have a look here.....</a> I would keep it for days which you want to treat yourself to something but not a regular addition to your diet.</strong> What about eating focaccia bread? This isn’t made from grains, so I suppose eating this is okay?

@ Edwin: Focaccia although delicious is definitely made with grains, have a look here….. I would keep it for days which you want to treat yourself to something but not a regular addition to your diet.

]]> By: Are Phytates In Food Dangerous? http://zentofitness.com/whats-the-problem-with-grains/comment-page-1/#comment-2081 Are Phytates In Food Dangerous? Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:33:12 +0000 http://zentofitness.com/?p=1476#comment-2081 [...] but I would just like to better understand the sentiment.  A recent post at Zen to Fitness on the problem with grains made me take notice, because it deals specifically with that question.  One of the things [...] [...] but I would just like to better understand the sentiment.  A recent post at Zen to Fitness on the problem with grains made me take notice, because it deals specifically with that question.  One of the things [...]

]]> By: jp http://zentofitness.com/whats-the-problem-with-grains/comment-page-1/#comment-2063 jp Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:03:23 +0000 http://zentofitness.com/?p=1476#comment-2063 Thanks for the response, I'll try those. Thanks for the response, I’ll try those.

]]> By: jp http://zentofitness.com/whats-the-problem-with-grains/comment-page-1/#comment-2061 jp Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:01:01 +0000 http://zentofitness.com/?p=1476#comment-2061 I have just ordered a copy of Paleo For Athletes, but was wondering how you feel about no grains in a diet of someone who is active. If I was setting out for a 3 hour mountain bike ride I would usually eat pasta before and take sweets power bars, and maybe cake with me (prob why I am heavy), but I need the carbs. What would you suggest. In theory I need 100g of carb an hour whilst riding to avoid 'bonking'. I am allergic to nuts. <strong>@ JP: The Paleo Diet for Athletes is a great read for someone like you and I would follow the recommendations in the book. Sweet Potato is great make a big batch and mash them (add some butter and cinnamon) and eat up before a long event. Keep trail mix with you as well as bananas and things like Dates if your worried about bonking. However I am sure you will be fine if you follow a Paleo diet with extra starchy tubers around the event...</strong> I have just ordered a copy of Paleo For Athletes, but was wondering how you feel about no grains in a diet of someone who is active.

If I was setting out for a 3 hour mountain bike ride I would usually eat pasta before and take sweets power bars, and maybe cake with me (prob why I am heavy), but I need the carbs. What would you suggest.

In theory I need 100g of carb an hour whilst riding to avoid ‘bonking’. I am allergic to nuts.

@ JP: The Paleo Diet for Athletes is a great read for someone like you and I would follow the recommendations in the book. Sweet Potato is great make a big batch and mash them (add some butter and cinnamon) and eat up before a long event. Keep trail mix with you as well as bananas and things like Dates if your worried about bonking. However I am sure you will be fine if you follow a Paleo diet with extra starchy tubers around the event…

]]> By: Elliot Wilson http://zentofitness.com/whats-the-problem-with-grains/comment-page-1/#comment-2009 Elliot Wilson Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:58:36 +0000 http://zentofitness.com/?p=1476#comment-2009 One of the main problems I have with avoiding grains is when I'm at a friends place for a meal. Grains are the cheapest way to bulk up a meal so almost always I'll be faced with rice, pasta or at best potatoes. Sure, they'll have meat and veges with that, but to avoid eating the grains and just eating the meat and veges is just not going to look very good! Is this a problem you face much Chris? One of the main problems I have with avoiding grains is when I’m at a friends place for a meal. Grains are the cheapest way to bulk up a meal so almost always I’ll be faced with rice, pasta or at best potatoes. Sure, they’ll have meat and veges with that, but to avoid eating the grains and just eating the meat and veges is just not going to look very good!

Is this a problem you face much Chris?

]]> By: Carole http://zentofitness.com/whats-the-problem-with-grains/comment-page-1/#comment-2007 Carole Mon, 07 Sep 2009 04:47:59 +0000 http://zentofitness.com/?p=1476#comment-2007 I've always said that whole grains and milk are problems. While there was plenty of science to back up the problems with milk, I didn't have the science to back up the whole grain theory though. Just an observation comparing people who ate them against those who don't. Now I have the real answer! I’ve always said that whole grains and milk are problems. While there was plenty of science to back up the problems with milk, I didn’t have the science to back up the whole grain theory though. Just an observation comparing people who ate them against those who don’t. Now I have the real answer!

]]> By: Yash http://zentofitness.com/whats-the-problem-with-grains/comment-page-1/#comment-1990 Yash Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:20:51 +0000 http://zentofitness.com/?p=1476#comment-1990 sorry to be unclear, my point at the end of that first paragraph was that with higher activity levels, grains/carbs may be required to meet caloric needs, whether because of caloric density, convenience, or whatever the individual case may be. sorry to be unclear, my point at the end of that first paragraph was that with higher activity levels, grains/carbs may be required to meet caloric needs, whether because of caloric density, convenience, or whatever the individual case may be.

]]> By: Yash http://zentofitness.com/whats-the-problem-with-grains/comment-page-1/#comment-1989 Yash Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:18:28 +0000 http://zentofitness.com/?p=1476#comment-1989 I sort of had my movement away from carbs/grains, but have come off it recently. This is not to say I don't still believe in the principles, but it isn't for me. I am involved in athletics, and aside from several practices/games a week, I also train in the gym for my sport, and I will also be adding another physical training activity 3 days/week about 2-3 hours each. This means my need to maintain weight now outweighs my desire to get leaner. I most likely will get more lean as a product of all this activity. However, even before I got so much on my plate, I was thinking about reversing my PERSONAL stance on the topic. For trained individuals who have lowered but not altogether eliminated carbs strategically for a period of time, insulin sensitivity is increased and eating carbs at the right time can be pretty beneficial. Even at non-optimal times, carbs aren't all that bad if you're training regularly. I think insulin gets a bad rep for all the nasty things it can do to people who eat cheetos and snickerdoodles all day and are fairly overweight and insulin resistant as a result, but on the other side of the spectrum, I'm beginning to think the Primal community, as much as I value the underlying principles, could stand to be a little more tolerant of insulin. I wouldn't go as far as some and say that clean eating is overrated, but if you're healthy and your biggest indulgence is some wheat bread or pasta, it may not be so blasphemous. I sort of had my movement away from carbs/grains, but have come off it recently. This is not to say I don’t still believe in the principles, but it isn’t for me. I am involved in athletics, and aside from several practices/games a week, I also train in the gym for my sport, and I will also be adding another physical training activity 3 days/week about 2-3 hours each. This means my need to maintain weight now outweighs my desire to get leaner. I most likely will get more lean as a product of all this activity.

However, even before I got so much on my plate, I was thinking about reversing my PERSONAL stance on the topic. For trained individuals who have lowered but not altogether eliminated carbs strategically for a period of time, insulin sensitivity is increased and eating carbs at the right time can be pretty beneficial. Even at non-optimal times, carbs aren’t all that bad if you’re training regularly. I think insulin gets a bad rep for all the nasty things it can do to people who eat cheetos and snickerdoodles all day and are fairly overweight and insulin resistant as a result, but on the other side of the spectrum, I’m beginning to think the Primal community, as much as I value the underlying principles, could stand to be a little more tolerant of insulin.

I wouldn’t go as far as some and say that clean eating is overrated, but if you’re healthy and your biggest indulgence is some wheat bread or pasta, it may not be so blasphemous.

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